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Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

 
That is the big lie when used to REFUTE the prophecy, fulfillment, command and practice that BAPTISM SAVES because that is how we Ask for A good conscience or A holy spirit based on the PLEDGE of Jesus who said:

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the GOSPEL to every creature.Mark 16:16 He that
        BELIEVETH (complies] AND is baptized shall be saved;
        but he that BELIEVETH NOT shall be damned.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned:
        but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY,
        because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 12:46 I am come a light into the world,
        that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

Christians, Disciples or Students of Christ have been baptized for the remission of sins, receiving A new, regenerated spirit, added to Christ's Church and have our spirits TRANSLATED into the heavenly kingdom.

Those who are BELIEVETH NOTS or treacherous do not ask KEPT SAFE FROM WHAT?

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened [at Baptism], who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Because of Musical Idolatry God turned the Israelites over to worship the starry host (Acts 7 etc). The "play" they engaged in was the musical idolatry of the Egyptian triad imaged by Apis the golden calf.

The starry host was "Sabazianism" and being a goyim or national religion was called "demonism" by Paul speaking of Mount Sinai.

RELIGIONISTS OUTSIDE OF GOD'S GRACE

Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past YOU walked according to the course of this world,
        according to the prince of the power of the air,
       
the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Kosmos , ho,  natgural, II.rnament, decoration, esp. of women; “hieros k.OGI90.40 (Rosetta, ii B. C.): pl., ornaments, A.Ag.1271; “hoi peri to sōma k.Isoc.2.32: metaph., of ornaments of speech, such as epithets, Id.9.9 (pl.), Arist.Rh.1408a14, Po.1457b2, 1458a33; hadumelē k. keladein to sing sweet songs of praise, Pi.O.11 (10).13 (s.v.l.).
Hēdu^-melēs , Dor. had- , Aeol. ad- , es,
A. sweet-singing, “khelidoiAnacr.67, cf. Sapph.122(Comp.), Pi.N.2.25; sweet-sounding, “xoanaS.Fr.238, etc.: poet. fem., “hēdumeleia surigxNonn.D.29.287.
Surigx , iggos, ,
2. cat-call, whistle, hiss, as in theatres, Id.Lg.700c; cf. “surizō11.2, surigmos:—the last part of the nomos Puthikos was called surigges, prob. because it imitated the dying hisses of the serpent Pytho, Str.9.3.10.
3. mouthpiece of the aulos

This Judas bag is from the Greek:

Glosokomon (g1101) gloce-sok'-om-on; from 1100 (speaking in tongues) and the base of 2889; prop. a case to keep mouthpieces of wind-instruments in, i.e. (by extens.) a casket or (spec.) purse: - bag.

It is made up of two words:

1. Glossa (from Strong's g1100) means "speaking in tongues" especially an unacquired one.

2. Kosmos (g2889) means the "orderly arrangement" or the "adorning" world. this is derived from (g2864 or Komizo which means "to carry off."

Kosmos (g2889) kos'-mos; prob. from the base of 2865; orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by impl. the world (in a wide or narrow sense, includ. its inhab., lit. or fig. [mor.]): - adorning, world.

"Yet, through all there was an overarching harmony. The Greek word cosmos which we translate by universe originally meant beauty and harmony.

The Pythagoreans discovered mathematical formulae for the musical harmonies. They believed in the harmony of the sounds produced by the movement of the stars.

Therefore, they spoke of cosmic harmony of the spheres, each of which has a different sound, but all together creating a harmonious sound. If you delete the half-poetic, mythological elements from such ideas, then you can say that they had a universal, ecstatic interpretation of reality." (Tillich, Paul, A History of Christian Thought, Touchstone, p. 333).

Kosmocrator (g2888) kos-mok-rat'-ore; from 2889 and 2902; a world-ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.

Kraeteo (g2902) krat-eh'-o; from 2904; to use strength, i.e. seize or retain (lit. or fig.): - hold (by, fast), keep, lay hand (hold) on, obtain, retain, take (by).

Rulers of the darkness of this world (Gk: Kosmokrator 2888) meaning "holders of this world, or Lord of the world. This is used of Satan and his angels (John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4).

Pind. O. 11 There is a time when men's need for WINDS is the greatest, and a time for waters from the sky, the rainy offspring of clouds. But when anyone is victorious through his toil, then honey-voiced odes [5] become the foundation for future fame, and a faithful pledge for great deeds of excellence. This praise is dedicated to Olympian victors, without stint. My tongue wants to foster such themes; [10] but it is by the gift of a god that a man flourishes with a skillful mind, as with anything else. For the present rest assured, Hagesidamus son of Archestratus: for the sake of your boxing victory, I shall loudly sing a sweet song, an adornment for your garland of golden olive, [15] while I honor the race of the Western Locrians. There, Muses, join in the victory-song; I shall pledge my word to you that we will find there a race that does not repel the stranger, or is inexperienced in fine deeds, but one that is wise and warlike too. For [20] neither the fiery fox nor loud-roaring lions change their nature.



Eph. 2:8 For by grace
[enim For Instance:] are ye saved
        through Per  
of space, through, through the midst of, throughout, all over, all along Of time, through, throughout, during
      
        Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer:
        behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison,
        that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days:
        be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

 faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

Eph. 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew
        the exceeding riches of his grace
        in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph. 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:


sōzō sōs
   Keep safe,
to keep, observe, maintain laws, etc., Trag.:—Pass., Thuc., keep in mind, with a sense of motion to a place, to bring one safe to,to carry off safe, rescue from danger, c. gen., ekhthrōn sōsai khthona to rescue the land from enemies, Soph.; Pass., sōthēnai kakōn Eur.


Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them,
        Repent, and be baptized every one of you
        in the name of Jesus Christ FOR the remission of sins,
        and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
        and to all that are afar off,
        even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
        saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

4646. skolio/ß skolios, skol-ee-os´; from the base of 4628; warped, i.e. winding; figuratively, perverse: — crooked, froward, untoward.



Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Acts 2:42 ¶ And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Vipers
earnstly seek him



grātĭa
 
Favor which one finds with others, esteem, regard, liking, love, friendship (syn. favor): “
B.
In partic., a mark of favor shown for a service rendered, thanks (by word or deed), thankfulness, gratitude; acknowledgment, return, requital

g4982.sozo, sode´-zo; from a primary sw◊ß sos (contraction for obsolete sażoß saos, “safe”); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively): — heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

2041. e¶rgon ergon, er´-gon; from a primary (but obsolete) e¶rgw ergo (to work); toil (as an effort or occupation); by implication, an act: — deed, doing, labour, work


Russ Adcox Purpose Driven Cult "grew" the attendance from about 300 to less than a hundred.  Russ Adcox refutes the major teachings of the Historic Church of Christ.  The Church of the ROCK in the wilderness never changed and had no ROLES and no DOLES.
Jer. 36:8 And Baruch the son of Neriah
        did according to all that Jeremiah the prophet commanded him,
        READING in the book the WORDS of the Lord in the Lord’s house. [Not INSIDE of the Temple]
Acts 8:28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot READ ESAIAH the prophet.
Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him,
        and heard him READ the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Acts 13:15 And after the READING of the law and the prophets
        The rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren,
        if ye have any word of exhortation [Comfort] for the people, say on.
Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem,
        and their rulers, because they knew him not,
        nor yet the voices of the PROPHETS which are READ every sabbath day,
        they have fulfilled them in condemning him.
THE CHURCH IN THE WILDERNESS
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that PREACH him,
        being READ in the synagogues
        every sabbath day. [One reading assembly once each REST day}

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"Train Prophetic roles, Channelers and Facilitators the method of subverting the 'hierarchial" views of Jesus and Paul. the end-time subversion is the beginninng-time version which is "Feminist hermeneutics stands over against patriarchal hermeneutics" its goal achieved "by small, often unnoticed acts of SUBVERSION. Numerous such incremental changes, like EROSION, will eventually bring down the FORTRESS " ( WOMEN IN THE CHURCH: Reclaiming the Ideal p. 32).

Carrol D. Osburn of Abilene Christian University (ACU) trains advanced degrees to move into otherwise Biblical churches and help MAKE THE CHANGES.

John O. York currently serves as Associate Professor of Bible and Preaching at Lipscomb University in Nashville, Tennessee. He also shares preaching responsibilities at the Woodmont Hills church of Christ in Nashville. John York defended by Lipscomb preaches with Rubel Shelly and they say:

THE NEW JESUS PROPOSAL: Rubel Shelly has NEW GLASSES (Like Peep Stone Joseph Smith of Mormonism) and has a NEW VISION FOR CHURCHES OF CHRIST. These GLASSES looked all of the way back to the beginning time BABYLON WHORE worship and all of the way to the END-TIME Babylon whore who will control most rhetoricians, sOPHISts (serpents), singers, musicians and craftsmen or FACILITATORS of the Change atents. In the Greek world they were known as SORCERERS and therefore all INSTRUMENTALISTS were PARASITES.

In the Old World, Newton said that F = ma was the law. Now, the new age philosophers are NOT sub-atomic particles and they should not get hung up in postmodern LEGALISM. If Rubel Shelly wants to blast off from earth, sling shot around the earth a time or two, project himself out in space JUST IN TIME for Mars to come along. And he ejects gasses and lands on Mars he will never need more than NEWTON'S idea of an apple. Therefore, it is just rank comedy for Rubel Shelly and John York to claim that YOU couldn't PROJECT your vision on a parchment which Jesus handled without your BLASTING AWAY any meaning. Preachers often are card carrying members of the FLAT EARTH SOCIETY.

Flashback: In abut 1927 Heisenberg discovered that if you shine a light or even an electron on another electron, you move it out of the way or even make it look like a WAVE which no one can really explain. Much later philosophers decided that that you cannot SHINE your eys (once a scientific superstition) on the Bible without your causing it to MEAN something different.

They even say that THEY must be paid to reveal what Jesus said for OUR times. The proof that they are INSPIRED is confirmed by THEIR ACTIONS.

Some believe that they are "selected and trained by the sovereign grace of God to be evangelists (located) with charismatic power to make you change by tossing the Bible in the trash heap."

This writer spent a quarter in college trying to derive and understand the following equation and it takes about ten pages to DERIVE it without EVER understanding. However, Rubel Shelly and ALL postmodern people who believe that TRUTH just evaporated, base their total heresy with which they DELIBERATELY SOW DISCORD because THEY now know that this equation which applies to ELECTRONS and other sub-atomic particles NOW applies to the Bible. You pay them an UNLAWFUL wage because THEY think that they understand quantum physics:

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The Purpose driven cult, Promise Keepers, Max Lucado and his AGENTS who must have his MARK before they can BUY AND SELL junk books of the SCRIBES or hypocrites who REPUDIATE the Bible and now preach JUST-JESUS which means ANTI-CHRIST. Dismissing with the back of his hand the book of John as the product of HIS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA, Rubel Shelly and band believe that they are PROPHETS and APOSTLES and now DISCLOSE truth from their own heads and VALIDATE it by their OWN LIVES:

Rubel Shelly and John York: How do I make sense of Jesus going back and forth, back and forth between Galilee and Jerusalem in John's account

when he never goes to Jerusalem in Matthew, Mark, and Luke until the very end of his ministry?

John, prompted by the presbyters at Ephesus, they say, had poor memories but composed the gospel of John for his own personal agenda. To prove it, Rubel Shelly MISQUOTES ancient scholars. Now, they say, John didn't want you to depend on his faulty witnes but you must look at ME as your authority.

But that's not the witness, the testimony John wants me to confirm.

What I am called to affirm with the

witness of my own life is that authenticating Spirit-presence

that reveals itself when I keep heaven's commandments here on earth, live the from-above life in my down-below setting.

Is this something like Standing in the Holy Place claiming to be God?

Max Lucado (Index) and (Creed) along with Lynn Anderson are following the PROMISE KEEPER'S or Crossroad's SHEPHERDING MOVEMENT. They will even hire family life STAFF to make sure you are not SEXUALLY disfunctional.

The STAFF drives the church, the elders shepherd the STAFF and the STAFF hires an expert in SHEPHERDING or DISCIPLING to make sure that you are SEXUALLY PURE. If you teach in favor of baptism or against instrumental instruments you will be DISCIPLINED and they will help you find ANOTHER congregation.

We have felt it happen. This will not prevent them from SLICKING your money lick pickpockets.

Rubel Shelly repudiating baptism

TODAY'S SERMON TODAY: Be on Guard: Just Jesus and Nothing More: not even baptism

The SIEVE or SIFTER parable 9/09/03 Do we NOW help the Holy Spirit reveal new TRUTH as they did in the first century??

Number four: Shelly at ACU: Wine Drinking focus and DIRTY PICTURES of the New Style Worship. Instrument players were always perverted and known as PARASITES.

As in Paul's Day, Grace is seen as authority to reject the Old Paths.
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Picture of Lot's Wife?: Your E-Mail Doesn't work!!!
Is The Exodus Pattern for Community and Worship? No
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