CONCLUSIONS: PAUL ALWAYS AND IN
GALATIANS REPUDIATES THE USE OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
WHICH WOULD "NORMALLY" BE SOMETHING ONLY WOMEN COULD
FALL INTO.
Jay Guin: “Thy Kingdom Come,” by Jay Guin.
I’ll offer an alternative approach to hermeneutics, based
on the Sermon on the Mount and related passages.
Jay Guin: “The Early
Church on Instrumental Music,” by Danny Corbitt. Danny,
the author of Missing More Than Music: When
Disputable Matters Eclipse Worship and Unity,
will offer material regarding the historical argument that
should be brand new to most readers. Recent research into
the writing and thinking of the Early Church Fathers has
dramatically changed our understanding of why they said
what they said about instrumental music.
Jay Guin: “Reconsidering
Ephesians 5:19” by Clyde Symonette. Clyde will offer an
approach to the passage that I’d never heard before and
that I think is a far better interpretation than any other
I’ve ever heard.
Jay Guin: “Psallo:
Lost in Translation?,” by Danny Corbitt, providing an
extensive word study on psallo.
AL MAXEY VIOLATING DIRECT COMMANDS BY
INTERPRETING THAT WHICH CHRIST FINISHED.
Jay Guin: “Reflective or
Regulative? Inquiry into Two Interpretive Principles and
their Application to Instrumental Accompaniment in a
Worship Assembly,” by Al Maxey. Al will offer a
critique of the Regulative Principle (silence is
a prohibition) and offer a better way of addressing the
silences of the scriptures.
http://www.zianet.com/maxey/reflx71.htm
Proposition 5
--- "That with respect to the
commands and ordinances of our Lord Jesus Christ, where
the Scriptures are silent, as to the express time
or manner of performance, if any such
there be;
no human authority
has power to interfere,
in order to supply
the supposed deficiency,
by making laws for
the church;
The
Disciples / Christian church subscribed to the High
Church principle which no one ever voted for
to give themselve the right to use Scripture, Church
Councils, Traditionalism and Silence.
Christ ordained
the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ (the Rock) in
the Wilderness
It was INCLUSIVE
of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God.
It was EXCLUSIVE
of "vocal or instrumental rejoicing." Simple peoplle
know better than to do that when Jesus comes to be our
only Teacher when WE teach or sing "that which is
written" or "that which has been taught." Romans 15
which EXCLUDES all rhetorical, musical or theatric
performance.
Jesus exampled
the synagogue which, by direct command never had a
"praise service."
Jesus commanded
the ekklesia which in the civil sense would hurt
musicians really bad.
Paul always
repudiates the performing artists before defining the
role of the synagogue.
Jesus "cast out"
the Musical Minstrels using a term "like dung."
Jesus consigned
the pipers, singers and dancers to the marketplace with
all other pollutants and consumables.
Jesus commanded
that the apostles make DISCIPLES: Disciples are students
and Jesus commanded that we "Teach what He has COMMANDED
to be taught."
Jesus did not
command ceremonial legalism but a School of His Word
Those who IMPOSE
instruments know that they have no command, example or
inference.
They in fact
make a LAW which is often spoken out loud: "Get over it
or get out."
They assume that
there is a DEFICIENCE in the Word of God.
nor
can any thing more be required of Christians
in such cases,
but only that
they so observe these commands and ordinances,
as will
evidently answer the declared and obvious end of their
institution.
Imposing
instruments knowing that it will sow discord and NEEDING
no authority originally violates the Direct command of
Christ and all of church history which defends
CENI. If you refuse to be tossed out of your own
"synagogue" by robbers, you are FORCED to observe what
you and all history defines as a sin.
Much less has any human
authority power to impose new commands or ordinances
upon the church, which our Lord Jesus Christ has not
enjoined."
The BURDEN, dear sectarian, is that YOU must show where
Christ commanded instruments. On the contrary, any reader of
"words" and pagan patterns knows that Christ in Spirit did
in fact repudiate the Musical Minsltrels always marked as
witches or sorcerers--as did John 9n Revelation 18.
If anyone can show me in
the Scriptures where our Lord has specifically declared
His disapproval of the use of instruments as
either an accompaniment or aid to singing, then
I will reverse my position and declare that
divine disapproval publicly. In the absence of such
evidence, however, I must choose not to put
the assumptions of mere men into His mouth. If all of
this was truly a matter of eternal life and death, as
some assert, I find it most odd ... don't you?!
... that God never uttered a single syllable about
it anywhere in the Bible. He didn't even hint
at divine disapproval. Thus, neither shall I.
You would be bound to explain why even simple simons never
imposed "congregational singing with the organ in
accompaniment." Singing in that oriental style lwas
never opposed until the year 373.
Some will have noticed that Christ was the Word of God (not
a people) Who created all things. It is Christ who
defined the king/queen of Tyre as "the singing and
harp-playing prostitute in the garden of Eden." It was
Christ who had Isaiah define the MARKS of sight and sound of
God driving His enemies into hell: it would be the same
wind, string and percussion instruments Lucifer used when
she was cast as profane out of heaven.
Christ identified the Scribes and Pharisees as Hypocrites:
He names false preachers, singers and instrument players.
Christ spoke through John in the book of Revelation. In
Revelation 17 he warns about the rise of the Babylon Mother
of harlots. In Revelation 18 "she" used "lusted after
fruits" which is exactly parallel to Amos. In Revelation 18
John identified the singers, instrument players and ALL
religious teknokrats as SORCERERS.
So, from Genesis where the Serpent is defined as a musical
enchantress to Revelation where the same harlot uses musical
enchanters to DECEIVE the whole world.
As practiced by Jesus who stood up to read the assigned text
and decently sat down, Paul, Peter and early church history
continued the church as:
INCLUSIVE of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of
God
EXCLUSIVE of "vocal or instrumental rejoicing." That
is the alarm or triumph over: in Psalm 41 it will be the
identifying MARK of Judas whose "Judas bag" carried the
mouthpieces of wind instruments. That speaks of the
tongues OF THE WORLD: Jesus refused to pray for the WORLD
and god HID Himself from the Wise or Sophists.
See the origin of the Synagogue in the Wilderness
See
John Calvin's commentary as he speaks of Restoring the
Church of Christ.
To presume to INTERPRET the Word of God about anything is
probably terminal arrogance. Peter spoke of the
Apostles, who like the prophets who spoke by Christ, as Eye-
and Ear-witnesses of the post resurrection glory of Christ
who confirmed HIS right to interpret by supernatural signs
and willingness to be murcered.
See
Second Peter 1 which outlaws what Al Maxey works so hard
to do.
This is after the "Jerusalem Counsel" defined the synagogue
in absolute terms which everyone understood.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath
in every city
them that preach
him,
being read
in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Paul explains why the Jews were blinded at Mount Sinai and
then fell back into musical idolatry. For this affront of
'making music' on the REST day God turned them over to
worship the starry host: those were the "gods" worshipped in
the temple whatever the Scribes say: Jesus marked the
Scribes as hypocrites and in the Ezekiel 33 account He named
performance speakers, singers and instrument players.
2Cor. 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope,
we use great plainness of speech:
2Cor. 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his
face, t
hat the children of
Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which
is abolished:
2Cor. 3:14 But their minds were blinded:
for until this day
remaineth the same vail untaken away
in the reading
of the old testament; which vail is done away in
Christ.
2Cor. 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the
vail is upon their heart.
2Cor. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the
Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
2Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where
the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor. 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a
glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same
image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the
Lord.
Peter agreed that the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies
made more perfect by Jesus are the primary READING material
to mold people into the image of Christ and not to the
effeminate speakers or musicians with no Biblical funding.
2Pet. 1:19 We have also a more sure word of
prophecy;
whereunto ye do well
that ye take heed, (the only Worship Word in the spirit or
mind)
as unto a light that
shineth in a dark place,
until the day dawn,
and the day star arise in your hearts:
The Evil Day Star is Lucifer: Christ in the prophets called
him/her the singing and harp-playing prostitute in the
garden of Eden. The MARKS of God driving His enemies
into "Hell" will be thesame wind, string and percussion
instruments.
Isaiah
30 God will treat the Musical bandits to the
same religion they practiced before and after Hezekiah's
plague stopping exorcism.
Rick
Atchley's
PATTERNISM is taken from 2 Chronicles 29: Hezekiah replaces
the CHILDREN burnt offering with GOAT burnt offerings to try
to appease Israel. Immediately before this chapter and
immediately after it the Levites returned to burning infants
to Molech a cult they operated in Egypt.
2Pet. 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an
apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like
precious faith with us through the righteousness of God
and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
2Pet. 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied
unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus
our Lord, hath given unto us all things that
pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of
him that hath called us to glory and virtue: having escaped the corruption
[connects to musical sounds] that is in the world through
lust.
2 Pet 1:15 Moreover
I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things alway
in remembrance.
2Pet. 1:16
For we have not followed cunningly [sophizo]
devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses
of his majesty.
Fables
are myths from MUO [to shut the mouth: music forces
the
lambs to be silent before the slaughter]
Muthos 2. fiction (OPPOSITE. logos, historic truth)embroidered
lies Poikilos 2. of Art, p. humnos a song of
changeful strain or full of diverse art, Pi.O.6.87;
“poikilon kitharizōn” Id.N.4.14;
“dedaidalmenoi pseudesi poikilois muthoi” Id.O.1.29;
of style, “lexis poiētikōtera kai p.” Isoc.15.47
(Comp.); “skhēmatismoi” D.H.Is.3.
Fables are myths from MUO
[to shut the mouth: music forces the lambs to be
silent before the slaughter]
Sophis-tês ,A. master
of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49;
of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28,
cf. Cratin.2; of
musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” A.Fr.314,
cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924,
cf. Ath.14.632c: with
modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn”
II. from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one
who gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics,
mathematics, for money,
Goēs
A. sorcerer, wizard,
Phoronis 2, Hdt.2.33,4.105, Pl.R. 380d,
Phld.Ir.p.29 W.; “g. epōdos Ludias apo khthonos” E.Ba.234,
cf. Hipp.1038;
prob. f.l. for boēsi Hdt.7.191.
2. juggler, cheat, “deinos g. kai pharmakeus kai sophistēs” Pl.Smp.203d;
“magos kai g.” Aeschin.3.137:
2 Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no
prophecy of the scripture is of any
private interpretation.
YOU CANNOT WITHOUT BEING MARKED
Epilusis
(g1955)ep-il'-oo-sis; from 1956; explanation, i.e.
application: - interpretation.
Epiluo (g1956)
ep-ee-loo'-o; from 1909 and 3089; to solve
further, i.e. (fig.) to explain,
decide: - determine, expound.
Epi-lusis A. release
from, e. phobôn [fear] didou A.Th.134 (lyr.):
abs., exemption from banishment, [purgatory?]. The word dissertio also carries
the idea of trying to REMOVE fear by explaining away
any worry about keeping laws.
2. . solution, “sophismatōn” S.E.P.2.246; explanation,
2 Ep.Pet.1.20,
WHY YOU CANNOT DISPUTE
OR EXPOUND WITH RHETORIC OR MUSIC AS MAGIC.
2 Pet. 2:1 But there were false prophets also among
the people,
even as there shall
be false teachers among you,
who privily shall
bring in damnable heresies,
even denying the
Lord that bought them,
and bring upon
themselves swift destruction.
2Pet. 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
by reason of whom
the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pet. 2:3 And through covetousness shall they
with feigned words make merchandise of you:
whose judgment now
of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation
slumbereth not.
Jay Guin: “An Afternoon
with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman” is an
interview by me of Rick and Chris. Rick is the senior
minister of The Hills Church of Christ (formerly
The Richland Hills Church of Christ), which is the largest
congregation among the Churches of Christ. Chris is the
senior minister of the Farmer’s Branch Church of
Christ. Both congregations have added instrumental
services in addition to their a cappella
services.
Jay
Guin: Rich and Chris will address a variety of
topics,
including why
they made the change,
how they handled
the transition,
how the addition of
instrumental services have helped the
congregations fulfill God’s mission.
Jay Guin: “Reflections
on My Interview with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman,” by
Jay Guin. This will be my reflections on what Rick and Chris
taught me in the interview. And they taught me a lot.
Both Chris and Rick follow the play book of the NACC which
sent out handlers to help make the switch. Each and every
one of the proof texts yanked out of context is twisted to
try to FORCE the curse God imposed upon Israel because of
musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Of course, being a
Bible student is not required when you are a rhetorician
which Jesus identified as a hypocrite.
The musical fall from Grace at Mount Sinai
Christ
in
Spirit
interprets
the
musical
idolatry
in
the
Prophets who always refuted the "lying pen of
the unlawful king's Scribes.
Christian Chronical posted the boast before the first
deliberate sowing of discord over adding the "musicl worship
team" (a heretical term) and then firing the deacons and
selecting or hiring some deaconesses, the number was 6,400
members. After the addition of instruments their
roughly 4,500 attendance dropped to roughly 3,500 which
means that the "owners" had their pocket picked three times
as the moved from
6,400 to now rougly 4,000+ by
countinng two congregations.
October 9, 10, 2010
NRH Campus: 3,871
WFW Campus: 162
Total: 4,033
Classes: 1,883
Contribution: $150,064
Weekly Budget: $176,043
Jay
Guin: “Beyond the Pitch Pipe” by Ryan Christian.
Ryan is the worship minister for The Hills Church of
Christ, and he will address what any church
considering an instrumental service needs to know about
the practicalities of adding an instrumental worship.
Jay Guin is using as authority those
who were "handled" by the NACC and their White Paper
full of black lies to move their congregationa away from
the Church of Christ (the money collecting stage) to a
defacto Christian church (the diversions of the monies."
All of those who have been used (willingly) rest their
case on the Law of the Monarchy which God permitted to
carry out the captivity and death sentence imposed
because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Rick
Atchley actually uses a plague stopping animal slaughter
used for exorcism when the sacrifices and sounds were
taken out of quarantine which God promised would bring
on His wrath.
You see, it’s time. It’s time to get
past the “whether it’s okay” debate and move on to the
“Is it necessary for this church?” discussion and, for
some churches, to the “How do we do it?” discussion.
We’ll
post
these articles about every-other day. The Q&A with
Rick and Chris will be broken down into four posts, due
to the length and depth of their comments. And they are
deep.
There
are two reasons I’m particularly proud of this body of
work — meaning the articles by people other than me.
First, I’m thrilled to introduce readers to Clyde
Symonette, a Bahamian minister for the Westridge
Church of Christ, Nassau, Bahamas. We Americans tend to
assume that all good Church of Christ theology comes
from the USA. God’s mission is to call all nations into
his Kingdom, and that can’t happen if no one outside the
U.S. gets to be a part of these discussions. Until then,
it’s just religious colonialism.
Second,
I don’t know about you, but I love a good discussion
about doctrinal and practical church leadership issues
— when the topic is close to my heart. And this one
is. It’s an issue I grew up with and live with. It’s
part of who I am. And I’ve savored every word of these
articles. Agree or disagree, these are thoughtful,
well-written, insightful, fresh works. Enjoy
Just as long as you agree with Jay Quin: He won't
tolerate any quoting of the REAL TRUE stuff.
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